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OBAMA'S FINAL CRUZADE IN AFGHANISTAN/July 4, 2009. (1 viewing) (1) Guest
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#148053
NATO-OTAN War Map Of Afghanistan In Central Asia! 2 Years, 6 Months ago Karma: -26  
Is Opium An Obstacle To 'Peace' In Afghanistan?! PLEASE EXAMINE THE MAPS OF AFGHANISTAN

www.helium.com/tm/183764/looming-civil-received-great

Armando Rozario - Rio de Janeiro - February 02, 2008
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NATO-OTAN War Map Of Afghanistan In Central Asia! 2 Years ago Karma: -26  
Obama confessed that Uncle Sam CAN NOT defeat the Taliban & Al Qaeda without the HELP of Europe!

Armando Rozario - Rio de Janeiro - July 26, 2008

P.S. Examine the detailed map.
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NATO-OTAN War Map Of Afghanistan In Central Asia! 1 Year, 12 Months ago Karma: 0  
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by petroamerica</i>



There are 12,000 experienced fighters and 1,200 hunan bombers led by Chief Dadullah, who defeated the Russians in the 1990/1996 war in Kabul.

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ARMANDO

(PP thinks: such a nice fellow. How can I break it to him gently? I know!)

news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february
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Not possible that they could have <i>"defeated the Russians in the 1990/1996 war in Kabul"</i>: for the simple reason that the Soviets departed the country in <b>1989</b> - the year before you allege that the war with the Russians started.

The period 1989 (when the Soviets departed) and 2001 (when the Americans came) was an era of years of civil (inter-tribal) conflict followed by the oppressive tyranny of the Taliban. Please read my post to Mac Taras in discussion titled <i> Taliban to beat the West as they did the USSR.</i>
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I concede that the inhabitants of Afghanistan are among the world's fighting people. They do indeed have a long track record of mauling the armies of imperial powers impertenent enough to invade their domain. Yet may I suggest that it may not be as you and others suppose because they are patriots who resemble the French World War Two resistence but for another reason:

Outside Kabul and one or two other cities, they are a patchwork of tribes led by warrior chieftons without any semblance of shared national identity. Afghanistan was the space left over when (in the mid-19th century) the Czarist Russian Empire in Central Asia and the British one in India has expanded as closely ot one another as each dared. Afghanistan was left to fend for itself as a "neither yours nor mine" neutral zone by mutual agreement between the empires. Afghanistan's international borders, therefore, were drawn up by others reflecting no real local community of interest.

They fight so well against foreign intruders because they have had so much experience at fighting one another.
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NATO-OTAN War Map Of Afghanistan In Central Asia! 1 Year, 12 Months ago Karma: -26  
Yes, I made a mistake, here is another interesting report on Afghanistan:

www.newsweek.com/id/150421

As we can see the Russians "retreated" much earlier

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Thanks Armando! Tasy enough to confuse dates.

Read the newsweek link. Not sure why Pakistan is playing this double game. Have read that whilst their president Musarref signed up as ally in Bush's "war on terror" to strengthen his position both domestically and abroad, he has never been as fully in control of Pakistan as he purports to be. Apart from the tribal areas along the Afghan border, the Pakistan intellegence service is reputed to be like a state within a state. Regardless of who is in government it does whatever it wants to do - and supports the Taliban in contradiction of Musarref's alliance with the Americans.

Within Pakistan itself sympathy with Islamic radicalism is widespread. (You could almost say "with a friend like this, who needs enemies"

There is nore at stake here than just Afghanistan!
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NATO-OTAN War Map Of Afghanistan In Central Asia! 1 Year, 8 Months ago Karma: -26  
pygmyPossum,

There is much more at stake than Afghanistan alone....there is Pakistan and the moral of the new American president OBAMA....a lot is at stake, including the Al Qaeda, the Taliban, the poppy fields, oil & gas pipelines, The US Navy, Airforce & Army.

Obama may decide to send about 100,000 ground troops to defeat the Taliban, the succes of this operation is slim, Pakistan might not be a reliable ally....on the contrary it looks like a huge Trojan horse.

The War Map of Afghanistan has all the key cities pin-pointed, but where are the Taliban's villages and Al Qaeda's hideouts?

EXAMINE THE NATO/OTAN WAR MAP OF 2009.....the important targets are not shown.

What the hell are the "North Atlantic Soldiers" doing in Central Asia? ASK BUSH or CHENEY!

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#170657
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President Obama has already noticed that the Europeans aren't going to send more troops to Afghanistan this year.

Mr. Robert Gates doesn't know what steps should be taken now.

I have a suggestion.....examine NATO's WAR MAP, then decide which city should be "carpet bombed"

Didn't the CIA offer the Talibans a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs a few months before 9/11 ?

The map is very precise, the USAF can choose any city....forget the civilians.....Mr. Gates love to whistle as he strolls by the gravesites of Afghanistan! (sic.)


Armando Rozário ¹²³ Cabo Frio, Brazil - June 09, 2009

P.S. Please check the URL/link of the MAP on Page 1. [A.R.]
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where does the future baluchistan stand on this war map ?
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REALITYZONE,

Obama & Bob Gates will have to ask the British War Office to send an experienced cartographer to draw the frontiers of the brand new country in Central Asia.

The British Empire, under the reign of the Drug Queen Victoria drew the outline of many new countries....all over the world in the XVIII and XIX centuries.

Mr. Brown will help his friend Obama in this easy task.....create a new friendly nation which rhymes with S-T-A-N.

How many .....STAN nations exist today? Nobody will notice a new one except Mr. Gates and Mr. Kissinger....who is on stage pulling the strings for the United States of America.

Herr Kissinger is Obama's new puppeteer!

Who will be crowned as the new democratic leader of the new NATION?


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PA; www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11313-----i am sure you have seen this. i believe this after map on the bottom, it will be in color. please note who drew it, and his comment about ethnic cleansing. the land gain and loss is of particular interest. also the new [countries popping up]
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