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#369
Benazir Bhutto Article 5 Years, 9 Months ago Karma: 0  
Dear Mr Shahzad

Great article. I always look forward to reading your news stories. When can we expect to see an interview with General Musharraf, stating when he intends to restore democracy to Pakistan?

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Very soon...hopefully before he sheds his uniform...


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I found this piece to be a waste of your (as an esteemed journalist) and the reader's time. Benazir continues to waste her breath on bellying her pseudo-democratic mantras for Pakistan in the vain hope that someone in Washington DC will hear her. Truth is, nobody cares in the US nor in Pakistan. She should accept that she was given an opportunity TWICE and stank both times as a leader (no different to her predecessors or for that matter successors) and ought to resolve herself to living a peaceful life on the millions of $$$ that she and her family and in-laws have looted from Pakistan.

It could benefit Pakistan if the media stopped giving plugs to these 'has-been' leaders...and start reaching out to 'real' people e.g., Mrs. Tauseef Hyat, Begum Mahmooda Salim Khan and many other far more newsworthy ladies. Women that have and continue to contibute to Pakistan at the grassroots level...unlike Benazir.

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Dear G Nayyar,

Sorry for late response. Benazir Bhutto is leader of largest Pakistani political party, first Muslim women Premier. For west she is daughter of the east. I raised the popular issues of today's Muslim societies including Pakistan and she replied. Now it is up to the readers to decide whether this kind of leadership has real answers or not.

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Dear G Nayyar,

Sorry for late response. Benazir is the leader of largest political party of the country. She is the first women premier in the Muslim world. For west She is the daughter of the east. There is no doubt that this kind of leadership has worth to be interviewed on popular issues of today's Muslim world. However, it is up to the readers to decide whether she has real answer to the issues or not.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by gnayyar</i>


I found this piece to be a waste of your (as an esteemed journalist) and the reader's time. Benazir continues to waste her breath on bellying her pseudo-democratic mantras for Pakistan in the vain hope that someone in Washington DC will hear her. Truth is, nobody cares in the US nor in Pakistan. She should accept that she was given an opportunity TWICE and stank both times as a leader (no different to her predecessors or for that matter successors) and ought to resolve herself to living a peaceful life on the millions of $$$ that she and her family and in-laws have looted from Pakistan.

It could benefit Pakistan if the media stopped giving plugs to these 'has-been' leaders...and start reaching out to 'real' people e.g., Mrs. Tauseef Hyat, Begum Mahmooda Salim Khan and many other far more newsworthy ladies. Women that have and continue to contibute to Pakistan at the grassroots level...unlike Benazir.


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DEAR GNAYYAR

BEFORE CONDEMNING THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP YOU MUST GO BACK TO HISTORY OF THOSE {GENERAL ZIA AND HIS COHORTS AND THAT INCLUDES MUSHARRAF}WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ORIGINAL SIN:

Coup d'etat, National Security Council & Colonial Army

INTRODUCTION:

The propensity to serve its imperial masters is deep rooted, one could even say it is genetic, in the Pakistan Army. This essential nature of our armed forces goes back to its foundation as a colonial army under the British with the old Indian Army serving as cannon fodder in the various imperial wars of the 19th and 20th centuries. Recall the inglorious role of our own regiments in Iraq and Arabia in the early years of the 20th century. This tradition was continued with the complete alignment with US policies, during the Cold War, of our military and political leaders. Our Army is ready to do the dirty work whenever it is called upon, like for example against the PLO in Jordan in 1970. One must stress that this deep sickness is not just of the military but it pervades our English-speaking ruling political class.

Looking at the horrible pictures of blindfolded white-bearded old men, in chappals (sandals), being pushed and dragged into Army jeeps in South Waziristan, with captions like "captured terrorists" "Al-Qaeda suspects". Women and children are killed in indiscriminate bombing, our own kith and kin being killed by our so-called defenders who excuse themselves by talking about collateral damage. Helicopter gunships are being used to bomb villages just as the Russians did in Afghanistan, the Israelis do in Palestine and the US in Iraq. Are these the models that our so-called glorious Army follows in killing its own people? We are very quick at learning the worst aspects of behaviour from our masters. We know that the United States is violating all international norms and is behaving like the barbaric country it is. Do we have to descend to the same level of barbarity? Do we have to be as uncivilised as them? Does not the Army feel disgusted with the way they are treating prisoners, their own countrymen, violating all rules of treatment of prisoners of war? Why is there not a wave of disgust and horror in Pakistan about this? Our Army has always been a brutal colonial army whose real purpose of existence has been to suppress its own people. Have they ever defended us? How many lost wars? Language in the Army and elsewhere in our society always apes the language of the masters. Just go to their officer's messes. The same with our civil servants who continue to use the jargon of the colonial era.

Why the Pakistan Army resort to Martial Laws and Interference in Civil Society? The answer of this question has always been "that Politicians are responsible". How could the politicians be responsible when only one Prime Minister can be called a genuinely elected leader and that too was brought in Power to save Pakistani Generals from the immediate wrath of Pakistani people after what they had done in Former East Pakistan now Bangladesh but that elected leader [no doubt he comitted many mistakes but he was a mortal human being] was hanged by the General Ziaul Haq in connivance with USA, Dr. Henry Kissinger, Jamat-e-Islami and other toadies as soon the Invisible Government in Pakistan restored its grip on the matters. During a an interview given to Monthly Herald Pakistan Former Chief of the Army Staff [now a member of a think tank of USA] some year back he opined that whenever the Corporate Interest of Military Establishment are in doldrums they would interfere so to keeping itself safe from check and balance they created an air for creation of National Security Council and that they decided after the Nuclear Blast in 1998 since there was no need of such an huge army after Nuclear Blast they staged a drama of Kargil and sabotaged the Peace Talks of Nawaz Sharif with India via opening a front in Kargil and the rest is history.

Nawaz was sent packing [ONE FAILS TO COMPREHEND AS TO WHY NAWAZ SHARIF WAS SACKED BECAUSE THE PRESENT CABINET IS FULL OF NABBED, WE ARE TALKING WITH INDIA, KASHMIR FILE IS VANISHED FROM PTV] the same Military Establishment is giving far much concessions to Indian than the any Popularly Elected Civilian Prime Minister could have given. Nawaz Sharif had also objected on Jihadi Elements and unabashed activities of Jihadis in Indian Held Kashmir but then he was ruthlessly stopped and all of his genuine actions against such fifth columnist anarchist {Jihadis who caused irreparable damage to a genuine political movement for the Liberation of the Kashmir} were sabotaged by nowadays so-called Libertine of Enlightened Moderation before 12 Oct 1999 they were all Jihadis in Army Fatigues [who could forget pistol wheeling COAS on BBC CLIP on the night of 12 Oct 1999].

One wonders where that Pistol has gone now, recently in an interview with Indus TV famous loudmouth columnist of Daily Dawn Mr. Ardeshir Cowasjee opined that Musharraf is the best in the worst lot and he also said that Musharraf wants to forget Kashmir. Strange are the people of Pakistan once upon a time in 1977 a General came in and said hey look 'Islam is in danger' so people tolerated his dictatorship and Mullahs and Clerics saved him by giving him the nomenclature of Ameer-ul-Momineen [Comander of the Faithful] then in 1999 another General comes in and said hey look 'Islam is a moderate religion and we must be a progressive Muslim Society' again Mullah supported him, his LFO, and gave him cover for National Security Council not only Mullah but the so-called Progressive English Speaking Class on the context That Talibans are Coming [same happened in USA when the establishment used to shout Russians are coming in late 50s]. Isnt it insulting the intelligence of mute Pakistanis?

Another reason for these coups are given by the Juntas who imposed Martial Laws in this country since 1958 is Corruption and Corrupt Politician. Do I have to repeat the names of 'Nabbed' Federal Ministers in the present Cabinet? If they are corrupt then why they are in Cabinet and if they are not corrupt then why their Past Governments were sacked? If the Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif and other Politicians are corrupt then why time and again they are approached for the deals? 2/3 years back in a Press Conference in Hyderabad Sindh Maj-Gen (retd) Zaheerul Islam Abbasi , who was sentenced to seven years rigorous imprisonment for waging war against the state, had criticised Gen Zia-ul-Haq for deceiving the people in the name of Islam and further demanded amendments in the redundant Army Act 1911 and make the army the army of Islam. He said it was not the job of the army to work in Wapda or clean the roads. He referred to section 33 of the Army Act where disobedience to even un-Islamic orders [I wonder where Mr Abbassi and Brigadier Billah were when several operation clean ups were laucnehd during the period of General Zia, where were the Islamic Ideology Council, Shariat Courts and Clerics/Jihadis] was punishable.Answering another question if there was corruption in the defence forces, he said there was "institutional corruption", which was shared by all the high-ups but corruption at individual level was negligible. The sole purpose of our Generals is to show the West particularly the USA that they can run the country better than Politicians and they also can accept any Command given to them by the Neo-Colonist in USA. The same leverage cannot be expected from a genuinely elected Parliament, Prime Minister as well as Genuinely Elected Opposition Leader. The most saddest thing is that as a nation/people/human being and so-called Muslims we have become indifferent why because when the establishment launched operation against Baluch Nationalists we {Sindh, Punjab, NWFP, East Pakistan}kept their criminal silence, when establishment launched operation against Bengalis in former East Pakistan we {Sindh, Punjab, Baluchistan and NWFP} were silent, when the establishment again launched operation in Baluchistan we{Sindh, Punjab, NWFP} were silent, when they laucnhed operation during MRD days in Sindh we {Punjab, Baluchistan and NWFP} were silent, when they launched operation against MQM without any legal support we {Jamat-e-Islami, JUP, PPP, PML-N etc} were silent, now when they have launched operation against religious elements without giving them proper hearing in the court of law we {MQM, PPP, PML-N etc} are silent. Therefore as a nation we don
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by STAR</i>

Dear G Nayyar,

Sorry for late response. Benazir is the leader of largest political party of the country. She is the first women premier in the Muslim world. For west She is the daughter of the east. There is no doubt that this kind of leadership has worth to be interviewed on popular issues of today's Muslim world. However, it is up to the readers to decide whether she has real answer to the issues or not.

Saleem Shahzad

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Shahzad, with respect, you're so full of it. To what "leadership" specifically are you referring when you speak of Benazir ? Leading the PPP ? We all know that she inherited that position from her father. Leading a Muslim country ? We all know what the electorate saw in her. Fair skin and breasts. Nothing more. After all why would they ? She doesn't have any brains (never graduated from college), and she's never shaved her legs either (per Asif Zardari at a dinner hosted by Rangoonwala in Karachi on Friday, October 22nd, 1993) - alright, I'm being somewhat facetious. But face it, she's no leader - she's a horse that brays rubbish everytime she opens her mouth (by the way, the opposition is no better) ...
Name us one piece of legislation of which she was the 'sole' author and that will have a 100 years of lasting impact on Pakistan or the "Muslim" world ?
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